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Hugh Rice via time-nuts
2018-11-29 08:14:53 UTC
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Hello Time-Nuts people, 
I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.     
I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.   
If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.     

History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.  
Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )   
One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.  
The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.  

The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago. 
In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.    
I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.  
If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.  

Hugh Rice
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jerry
2018-11-29 14:36:05 UTC
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I would look like the manual.  Let me know how Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note8, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Hugh Rice via time-nuts <time-***@lists.febo.com> Date: 11/29/18 12:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: time-***@lists.febo.com Cc: Hugh Rice <***@yahoo.com> Subject: [time-nuts] 5061B service manual;
  10811 oscillator (non-working?)  free to good home Hello Time-Nuts people, I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.     I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.   If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.     History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.  Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )   One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.  The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.  The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago. In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.    I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.  If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.  Hugh Rice_______________________________________________time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.comTo unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand follow the instructions there.
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Glenn Little WB4UIV
2018-11-29 14:43:57 UTC
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Hugh

If still available, I wold like top get the 10811.
I have a 5328A counter that I would like to put a better timebase into.

Thank you for offering this.
I have an interesting story about a HP Cesium standard failure on a
submarine, if you are interested.

Glenn Little
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Hello Time-Nuts people,
I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.
I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.
If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.
History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.
Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )
One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.
The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.
The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago.
In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.
I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.
If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.
Hugh Rice
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jerry
2018-11-29 15:47:27 UTC
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Sorry, the prior note got away from me too quickly.  I would like the 5061b manual.  Let me know how you would like to proceed.Jerry
-------- Original message --------From: Hugh Rice via time-nuts <time-***@lists.febo.com> Date: 11/29/18 12:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To: time-***@lists.febo.com Cc: Hugh Rice <***@yahoo.com> Subject: [time-nuts] 5061B service manual;
  10811 oscillator (non-working?)  free to good home Hello Time-Nuts people, I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.     I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.   If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.     History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.  Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )   One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.  The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.  The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago. In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.    I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.  If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.  Hugh Rice_______________________________________________time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.comTo unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand follow the instructions there.
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jerry
2018-11-29 16:00:26 UTC
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By the way, there are some 10811 with the card needed for the 5328 on ebay right now.  There is a small card added to the back of the 10811 specific to that counter I guess.
-------- Original message --------From: Glenn Little WB4UIV <***@bellsouth.net> Date: 11/29/18 6:43 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Hugh Rice via time-nuts <time-***@lists.febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5061B service manual;
  10811 oscillator (non-working?) free to good home HughIf still available, I wold like top get the 10811.I have a 5328A counter that I would like to put a better timebase into.Thank you for offering this.I have an interesting story about a HP Cesium standard failure on a submarine, if you are interested.Glenn LittleOn 11/29/2018 3:14 AM, Hugh Rice via time-nuts wrote:> Hello Time-Nuts people,> I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.> I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.> If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.>> History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.> Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )> One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.> The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.>> The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago.> In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.> I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.> If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.>> Hugh Rice> _______________________________________________> time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com> To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com> and follow the instructions there.-- -----------------------------------------------------------------------Glenn Little                ARRL Technical Specialist   QCWA  LM 28417Amateur Callsign:  WB4UIV            ***@arrl.net    AMSAT LM 2178QTH:  Goose Creek, SC USA (EM92xx)  USSVI LM   NRA LM   SBE ARRL TAPR"It is not the class of license that the Amateur holds but the classof the Amateur that holds the license"_______________________________________________time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.comTo unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.comand follow the instructions there.
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Hugh Rice via time-nuts
2018-11-30 03:18:22 UTC
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A number of you have suggested that the 5061B manual to bescanned and shared more broadly. 

I’ll look into doing that when I am in the USA  in a couple of weeks.   Could someone providea place to 

post the scanned PDF files where many can access them?

 

I’ll likely give the original 5061B manuals to TomVan Baak, the originator of the Time-Nuts.

 

 

On the 10811 oscillator; many are interested asking forit.  I’ll have to come up with a way ofchoosing

who to send it too.   I may have oversold this thing: It is probably less complete than many are hoping.

Is there a way to post pictures to this mailing list sopeople can see what it is?

 

Finally, my apologies for the formatting of my messages, andprobably not posting correctly.  Thetime-nuts

email system seems to eat the carriage  returns from my Yahoo.mail account.    Maybe this one will be better.

 

Hugh Rice


On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 5:09:31 PM GMT+8, Hugh Rice via time-nuts <time-***@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Hello Time-Nuts people, 
I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.     
I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine.  And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.   
If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note.   If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.     

History of these things:  -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division.  My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.  
Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team.   My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board.    Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components.    Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff.   (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )   
One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual.  I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual.    The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.  
The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.  

The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B.   This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago. 
In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.    
I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.  
If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.  

Hugh Rice
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Tom Van Baak
2018-11-30 08:20:16 UTC
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I’ll look into doing that when I am in the USA in a couple of weeks. Could someone provide a place to
post the scanned PDF files where many can access them?
Many of us who scan time & frequency documents and manuals place our PDF's on Didier's massive free manual site:
http://www.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=manuals

You'll find dozens of cesium and rubidium manuals available there. Click on his PayPal donate button if you wish (Christmas is coming soon).

Also, look for manuals scanned by time-nut Dave at artekmanuals.com who also uses the eBay user name artekmedia. Some years ago I loaned him my Atomichron and my mint condition hp 5061A, 5061B, 5062C, 5065A manuals. The scan quality is extremely good, far better than what I could do at home. And the price he charges (plus free postage) is very reasonable. Search for rubidium or cesium from "items for sale" at:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/artekmedia
I’ll likely give the original 5061B manuals to Tom Van Baak.
I'll compare Hugh's manual with the 5061B manual(s) I have here to see how it compares with Didier's or Dave's offering.
Finally, my apologies for the formatting of my messages, and probably not posting correctly. The time-nuts
email system seems to eat the carriage returns from my Yahoo.mail account. Maybe this one will be better.
Yeah, sorry about that. We still have formatting issues with some ISP's like aol and yahoo.

/tvb


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A number of you have suggested that the 5061B manual to bescanned and shared more broadly.
I’ll look into doing that when I am in the USA in a couple of weeks. Could someone providea place to
post the scanned PDF files where many can access them?
I’ll likely give the original 5061B manuals to TomVan Baak, the originator of the Time-Nuts.
On the 10811 oscillator; many are interested asking forit. I’ll have to come up with a way ofchoosing
who to send it too. I may have oversold this thing: It is probably less complete than many are hoping.
Is there a way to post pictures to this mailing list sopeople can see what it is?
Finally, my apologies for the formatting of my messages, andprobably not posting correctly. Thetime-nuts
email system seems to eat the carriage returns from my Yahoo.mail account. Maybe this one will be better.
Hugh Rice
Hello Time-Nuts people,
I have a 5061B factory service manual, and a 10811 oscillator (missing the bottom cover and likely non-working) that I would like to give to a good home.
I stumbled across an e-bay listing for a 5016B service manual, and was tempted to sell mine. And then I found the "time-nuts" group today, and decided finding a good home for these items was a better choice.
If you would like these (I can separate), send me an email or reply to the note. If there are several interested in these things, perhaps the community can help me decide the most worthy home.
History of these things: -----------------------In 1984 I was a new EE graduate working for HP's "PFS" (Precision Frequency Sources) organization at HP's Santa Clara Division. My first job with HP was to be the junior member of a two man development team to freshen up the 5016A Cesium Standard with procurable electronics, as some of the components in the 5061A were getting obsolete after 10+ years of production.
Roberto Montesi was my fantastic mentor, and the lead of this little team. My job was to redesign the clock display from TTL logic and LED's, to a 4000 series CMOS and a LCD display, and to redesign the battery charger board. Both were great projects for a new engineer, and I was able to dramatically simplify the designs with modern components. Roberto redesigned the main power supply board, and the frequency divider module, plus some other stuff. (There is a good story behind a 10MHz 10811 oscillator, being divided down to 5MHz, and then multiplied back up to 10MHz before being presented to the customer on the front pannel. )
One of jobs on the 5061B program was to update the service manual. I was the engineering editor working with the service manual team to update all the text and schematics, and text for the whole manual. The 5016A manual was about 1/3 yellow "change sheets" from all the production changes over the years, and needed a clean reset.
The manual I'm giving away is my personal copy that I've been storing for 30+ years.
The 10811 oscillator was manufactured by the same department as the 5061B. This one is a cast off I picked up some where and put in my archives box 30 years ago.
In 1993 I left Santa Clara division for the HP Inkjet Printer organization in Vancouver WA, where I've worked for the last 25 years.
I'm currently living in Singapore, still developing inkjet printers, and will be home for the holidays in a couple of weeks, and able to mail the objects then.
If you read this far, and found this interesting, I could try to drag up some more memories of the HP PFS days from the late 1980s.
Hugh Rice
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