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Naked 4046 PLL chip
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Poul-Henning Kamp
2018-07-21 14:44:53 UTC
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Clearly not your average chip:

https://zeptobars.com/en/read/Ti-CD4046BE-CMOS-PLL-Oscillator-VCO-zener
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Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts
2018-07-21 16:26:57 UTC
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Obsolet by today’s standard

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Dana Whitlow
2018-07-21 16:50:42 UTC
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Did the original '4046 include the anti-backlash fix?

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On Saturday, July 21, 2018, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts <
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Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts
2018-07-21 16:53:13 UTC
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NO
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2018 12:51:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ***@gmail.com writes:

 
Did the original '4046 include the anti-backlash fix? Dana On Saturday, July 21, 2018, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts < time-***@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Obsolet by today’s standard > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 21, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <***@phk.freebsd.dk> > wrote: > > > > Clearly not your average chip: > > > > https://zeptobars.com/en/read/Ti-CD4046BE-CMOS-PLL- > Oscillator-VCO-zener > > > > -- > > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > > ***@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by > incompetence. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/ > listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/ > listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.
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Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts
2018-07-23 00:32:07 UTC
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That is a different better beast !
 
In a message dated 7/22/2018 1:45:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, ***@yahoo.com writes:

 
The 9046 handles ant-backlash
 
https://assets.nexperia.com/documents/data-sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf
 
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I like Polywell Fusion.

 
 
On Saturday, July 21, 2018, 4:54:28 PM UTC, Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts <time-***@lists.febo.com> wrote:
 
 
NO
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2018 12:51:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ***@gmail.com writes:

 
Did the original '4046 include the anti-backlash fix? Dana On Saturday, July 21, 2018, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts < time-***@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Obsolet by today’s standard > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 21, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <***@phk.freebsd.dk> > wrote: > > > > Clearly not your average chip: > > > > https://zeptobars.com/en/read/Ti-CD4046BE-CMOS-PLL- > Oscillator-VCO-zener > > > > -- > > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > > ***@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by > incompetence. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/ > listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/ > listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-***@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

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Gerhard Hoffmann
2018-07-23 00:52:28 UTC
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Could it be that the reflector drops messages?

I did not get Ulrich's  NO-Message and also not that from msimon6808.

It has become quite silent since the move to the new server.

Subjectively -6 dB.

Cheers, Gerhard
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That is a different better beast !
The 9046 handles ant-backlash
https://assets.nexperia.com/documents/data-sheet/74HCT9046A.pdf
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I like Polywell Fusion.
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Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts
2018-08-02 21:58:47 UTC
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Can  anyone help with a schematic , data sheet and measured data ?
 
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